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The panelists of The View on Wednesday’s (July 22) show, all of whom are working mothers themselves, took turns roasting Tucker Carlson for his podcast comments about women in the workplace.
The segment started with the cohosts reviewing footage of the former Fox News anchor’s response to the female host’s question about whether he, as a father of girls, believes his daughters’ male spouses should have final say in household decisions: “Well, obviously, I’m never going to talk about my children. It’s an insane question that I’m going to ignore without being offended,” Carlson said with a laugh. “Women in general want the man to make the decision, as you well know,” he continued. After the host said, “Well, I don’t know,” Carlson continued. “Well, I do know. I do know. And the women who won’t admit that are not telling the truth. Feminism is an op[eration] run by big business to lower the price of labor and to free up a massive and incredibly productive female workforce, and that’s been bad for the country.”
Whoopi Goldberg began the reactions by saying, “First of all, first of all, wipe your face. Wipe your face,” in response to the sheen visible on Carlson in the clip. “What was all that on your face?!”
“Well, maybe he’s foaming at the mouth,” Joy Behar joked.
“I don’t know what this boy is talking about,” Goldberg then continued.
“Well, he says that women were happier in 1972, and he was born in ’69, so that’s why. He was only three years old and couldn’t talk yet,” Behar then said.
Sara Haines then stepped in to take her turn, saying, “The way he answered that question — ‘women in general,’ because he was asked about his own daughters — by the way, don’t faux outrage when someone asks you about that because being a parent does inform how you view the world and how you can often alter it, and it’s deeply personal. So he says, ‘Women in general,’ meaning, ‘not my kids, not my wife’… So this is good enough for you, but not me type of moment. Women were not happier in 1972 — because that’s what he goes on to say, as you mentioned [Joy]. Since then, we’ve had Title IX anti-discrimination laws. We’ve had financial independence. We can get credit cards without our husbands’ approval. Family and medical leave protecting our jobs if we’re to leave, legal protections against domestic violence and sexual assault, not to mention education.”
Haines then delivered a pointed message to Carlson himself. “So I would like to inform Tucker Carlson that he has no room to speak about what ‘women in general’ are doing because he clearly has not heard of that.”
Sunny Hostin then turned the microscope onto Carlson himself, crediting cohosts Alyssa Farah Griffin with providing this information, saying, “Alyssa gave me some insight into Tucker Carlson’s mind because, apparently, his mother left the family when he was just six years old. He only has brothers, doesn’t have any sisters, and he said that rejection from his mother caused deep psychological wounds. So that’s apparent, and I think we’re seeing it.”
“Yeah, I think men would rather have a podcast where they rant about women than go to therapy,” Griffin then joked. “But listen, he also goes on to further imply that women who pursue careers may or may not love their families less. My most progressive girlfriends, my most successful corporate CEO girlfriends, those are people who still center their families as the center of their life. I don’t know a woman who is a mother who doesn’t put her children at the center of her life.”
She then offered a personal take, saying, “I’m not a trust fund kid like Tucker Carlson. I work because I need to pay for my lifestyle. Doesn’t mean I love my kid any less. It’s such a sick notion.”
Haines then stepped back in to fact-check something else Carlson said in the interview, saying, “He goes on and on about how women were pushed into the workforce for big business. Big business didn’t really have its eye on us at that point. By the way, it was never about the workforce; it was about the option to choose. It was always about letting women do what they wanted to do.”
Behar then offered another quip, saying, “The irony is that it’s guys like Tucker Carlson that caused feminism in 1970. That’s the irony. They should be in the history books with Gloria Steinem. They’re just as influential.”
Goldberg then got the final word on the matter with a little history lesson for Carlson, saying, “Years ago, during World War II, when women had to go into the workplace, they were forced out when the men came home. Those are the reasons. The women who wanted to go to college, who were told, ‘You can’t go to this college because we don’t accept women,’ that’s why women got educated. Because they didnt’ want to be told what to do by dumb gentlemen like yourself.”
The View, weekdays, 11a/10c, ABC
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